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Does U.S. president Barack Obama deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? IMO No!!! What has he done in just a few months in office? George W. Bush toppled an evil, murderous dictator and freed the Iraqi people. Where is his Nobel Prize? Many here in USA are scratching our heads, including many who support Obama. Given the criteria of the Nobel Committee then next year I shall nominate Smersh and Dutchie for being smart, kind, wise and polite gentlemen who also have excellent table manners!

Alfred Nobel has stated very clearly that the prize's purpose is NOT only to rewards someone for his accomplishments, but also to ENCOURAGE people on the road ahead. Remember Mandela's prize? Niek de Klerk ALSO got it, a t a moment when Apartheid STILL firmly was in place. Remember Anwar Sadat and Menahem Begin? Same purpose. So I really don't see why people get all this agitated about it.

And OF COURSE the republicans are breathing fire....

On a personal note: I had rather seen the committee giving it to Morgan Tsvangirai of Zimbabwe. Talking about a person who REALLY needs the encouragement... Then maybe, Obama could have received the prize next year, and nothing was lost.

BTW, my table manners ARE excellent, yes. So give the prize to someone who needs more encouragement in that particular field....

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"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.

Well by that logic, maybe Saddam Hussein should have been posthumously awarded the Nobel Prize on account of the very strong liklihood that the body-count in Iraq would have been considerably less had he remained in place.

I have to agree with you though Jim (taking into account the good points that Dutchie just made, excluding his hint about my table-manners ) that I'm not sure why Obama got the award, after such a short time in office. Surely there are more immediately deserving candidates around (although I can't think who, atm.)

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Pobody's nerfect

They coulda given it to Biden for putting his feet in his mouth so often he now needs a consult from a Podiatrist before any dental work can be done -



Joe (bigsky770)

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“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.”

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Jimmy Carter won and he was a terrible president. Mandela is a communist. Arafat was a terrorist. Obama is right at home. Even Lech Walesa is questioning it. Remember him?

I resent the remark about Mandela in particular. Even if he were a communist, which he isn't, the man has meant very much to world tolerance.
Before spouting your short-sighted criticism, you'd do well to do some research in the Nobel prize's history and meaning (see my remarks in previous post).

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My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.. (F. Zappa)
"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.

Bigsky770 will agree with you about Carter being a "terrible president" I would imagine Jim, although the reason he got the award was as follows:



http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peac ... press.html

However, the award has nothing to do with people who make a right dog's breakfast of resolving a hostage crisis, so that and many other of Carter's failings wouldn't have been taken into consideration, in my opinion. Incidentally, while we're on the subject of Jimmy Carter, I started a thread here a couple of years ago that you might find interesting:

Carter says Bush administration "Worst in History"

As for Nelson Mandela, I agree with Dutchie, on account of the fact that he did so much to finally bring to an end the extreme racist apartheid policies in South Africa. He shared the award with F.W. De-Klerk, the then leader of the extreme right-wing National Party, which started the whole apartheid policy in the first place and brought it to an end in conjunction with Mandela. Perhaps Mandela did start life as a communist, (I'm not sure, but it's irrelevant anyway) but then so did Mikhail Gorbachev and he tore down the Berlin Wall and got the peace prize in 1990. The award has nothing to do with whether a person is left-wing, centre or right-wing, but what that person achieves in his or her efforts to promote peace.

For info, here's a complete list of all Nobel Peace Prize winners since it started in 1901:

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/

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Pobody's nerfect

Y'all make very valid points, to be sure, but I just don't see where Obama has done anything to deserve the Nobel Prize. I would agree with Dutchie that Mandela earned it despite his leftist leanings. Poor Gorby set out to reform Soviet communism and ended up presiding over the fall of it and yes he deserved his Nobel. Reagan should have gotten one as well.

Point being - Think its' safe to say ‘The Nobel’ can be handed out much according that same criteria 'TIMES' 'Man of the Year' award is also - POF - Adolf Hitler (1938) & Josef Stalin (1939) - - ‘course, Barack H. Obama (2008) Shares this as well as other notables mentioned above - should be a clue-in displaying full well that ALL political pundits are not to be trusted, eh?

IOW, it doesn't have to mean anything. Its' like the door-prize handed to the last boob who makes it thru the door before they are secured, hors d'œuvres have been laid-waste and the main course is divvied out prior the toast.

"Ah! Look! Here he is now! (last one thru the door plays the sucker?) -methinks

Bets, Anyone? Barack will either use this as a paperweight or it will be donated for sale at the Rev. Jeremiah Wrights’ next ’white elephant’ sale . . .

Joe (Bigsky770)

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“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.”

- - Groucho Marx

Oh God don't get me started on Time's Man of the Year. Ayatollah Khomeini made the cover as well. Good comparison. I suppose it goes back to how seriously one takes awards, and the Oscars were a good example. Wait. That's from another site. Someone made a good point about Oscar winners and losers.

We can sit here second-guessing their choices for “Times Man of the Year” (or) “The Nobel Prize” - But assessing it in real terms for the actions as played out - It isn’t quite fair, is it?

I had previously admitted elsewhere how terribly wrong my own choices were in lieu of the facts, how I was to witness history being played out - Whether Carter, Bush, Reagan, and yes, even Obama now as today - We are so terribly mistaken for our choices - These are mere puppets. Pull the strings, and they dance a ‘lil jig for the bankers who really control the show, for these are the men, the TRUE ’masters behind the curtains’.

With this, I humbly submit to you a man above all others mentioned prior - For how he was able to utilize that revolving-door between Goldman-Sachs and our Gov’t, placing himself in a position of power where none-dare question lest they fall prey to his ever-ready axe with this ‘lil tidbit from September 24, 2008:

From site:


Such hubris - Such arrogant bombastic communiqué - Without challenge, (mind you) even from THIS YEAR’S winner (current) President Barack H. Obama - who would otherwise lay powerless should the scissors be applied those strings that require his dance, no-different than his predecessor , George W. Bush.

With this, I humbly submit to you the TRUE winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, Past-Secretary of the Treasury Henry (Hank) Paulson:



- For his unwavering commitment to turn the once-bread-basket of the world, these United States of America into a ‘Basket case’ of another kind, where no bounds may be known to rape, pillage and plunder every last dime of value (from it) into some ‘SocioCorporate Bankers Paradise’ - spirited away to (God knows where?!?)

I ask you - What better choice than that?

Next year’s candidates may include present Secretary of the Treasury ”I believe in a strong dollar” sic. kaff-kaff-hack Timothy Geithner - or possibly Gordon ”I’m not doing this interview” Brown - No, strike that -

He’s merely a lackey too.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.”

- - Groucho Marx

Blah Blah Blah Blah and major Blah....

Comparing the Nobel Peace Prize to some stupid magazine's award is like comparing an anvil to a screwdriver.

You guys are just embittered by an electoral outcome that didn't suit you. Well, that's democracy at work - and you just have to swallow the consequences, whether you like it or not.

Remember, the prize comes from Sweden, a country - just like Holland - where your left is valued as right-wing. Americans might not like the political systems in Northern Europe, but they're there and they're not very likely to disappear any time soon. So, if you think we're all lefties, I guess that's true. But I don't think that degrades the value of the NPP in any way. If you are not prepared to delve into the prize's history and cultural background, I guess you can never appreciate what it stands for.

BTW, check out the Nobel prize for economics, then you would whistle a different tune. I think a disproportional number of American economics received it. Rather silly when you look at the current state of the USA economy...

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My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.. (F. Zappa)
"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.

Any further comment on my behalf - pointless. I have patience that time will bear out truth.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.”

- - Groucho Marx

My my, aren't we giving up quickly...

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My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.. (F. Zappa)
"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.

October 12, 2009

Obama Named Country Music Entertainer of the Year

Surprise Selection Shocks Nashville

NASHVILLE (The Borowitz Report) - President Barack Obama stunned the
country music world today by picking up its highest honor, Country Music
Entertainer of the Year. Mr. Obama was chosen unanimously, according to the
Country Music Association, beating out such favorite as Carrie Underwood and
Toby Keith. In Nashville, country music insiders were shocked by Mr. Obama's
selection, given that he has only been in office for eight months and during that
time has yet to record a single country song. But Mr. Obama was gracious in
receiving the honor, saying that he was "honored and humbled" by the award
before excusing himself to accept this year's Heisman Trophy.

Here's a story about it that's (almost) from the BBC ...



Full story here.

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Pobody's nerfect

Why fight? Swedes are afforded the comfort of distance, Dutchie. They can paint history in any tones their ’lil hearts desire. We shall have to bear the discomfort of policy due our proximity - not they, and further, not from anyone individual, mind you, but from a consortium of bankers who refuse an audit of the FED that would uncover the depths of corruption within banking the likes the world has never known. . .one that helped shovel an add'l 2.5+ trillion dollars in debt we, as a nation, shall never recover from. Do the Swedes have a fucking award for that?!?

Elizabeth Warren “Just Take It” Said Hank Paulson to the Banks

Dutchie - Your mistake is that you’re forever in this mistaken belief that I am singling-out THE MEN (be it Obama, or Bush, or Clinton etc. etc.,) and really, it isn’t them - As stated before, they’re merely puppets. They enter the stage, play a part for awhile, then exit with all these wonderful accolades (for whatever) ‘ceilings’ they broke - In actuality, the only broken ceilings any of them were party to was runaway spending. September 2008 during the Bush administration - you might say it was my 'epiphany'.

Sweden must be nice this time of year. A sight prettier, I might add, long after we become a third-rate banana republic . .

Joe (Bigsky770)

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“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.”

- - Groucho Marx

I see I have a kindred spirit in Bigsky.

no big deal...nothing to get all wrungout about...i looked up a picture



could use it as a frisbee, i suppose...

Is Obama's picture on the other side?