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Michael Jackson has died.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_michael_jackson

AP Source: Michael Jackson dies in LA hospital
.. AP – FILE - In this Aug. 29, 1993 file photo, pop singer Michael Jackson performs during his 'Dangerous' concert … . Slideshow:Michael Jackson dies at 50 . Play Video Celebrity Video:Michael Jackson Dead At 50 WJZ 13 Baltimore . Play Video Celebrity Video:News Of Michael Jackson Draws Fans To Holmby Hills CBS 2 / KCAL 9 Los Angeles .By NEKESA MUMBI MOODY and DERRIK J. LANG, Associated Press Writers Nekesa Mumbi Moody And Derrik J. Lang, Associated Press Writers – 3 mins ago
LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson, the sensationally gifted "King of Pop" who emerged from childhood superstardom to become the entertainment world's most influential singer and dancer before his life and career deteriorated in a freakish series of scandals, died Thursday, a person with knowledge of the situation told The Associated Press. He was 50.

Rest in Peace Michael




And So has Farrah. rough week.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obit_fawcett;

'Charlie's Angel' Farrah Fawcett dies at 62

.. AP – FILE - In this May 1977 file photo, actress Farrah Fawcett-Majors, poses on the tennis court in Los Angeles. … . Slideshow:Farrah Fawcett dies at 62 . Play Video Video:Farrah Fawcett, 1947-2009 AP . Play Video Video:'Angels' Actress Farrah Fawcett Dies at 62 ABC News .By LYNN ELBER, AP Television Writer Lynn Elber, Ap Television Writer – 1 hr 5 mins ago
LOS ANGELES – A winsome smile, tousled hair and unfettered sensuality were Farrah Fawcett's trademarks as a sex symbol and 1970s TV star in "Charlie's Angels."

But as her life drew to a close, she captivated the public in a far different way: as a cancer patient who fought for, then surrendered, her treasured privacy to document her struggle with the disease and inspire others.

Same for you Farrah

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Nostradomas

Wat is it with people hating Michael Jackson? i mean its just cos some gold-digging skank used her own son try to get some money. they talked to the kid and he said that Michael wouldnt do something like molesting kids. Plus hes white cos he has a skin disease not cos he bleached it =,.=
Any one who thinks that Michael jackson is a freak then i just dont care cos ive heard it and laughed at it. So just get lost and get a life.
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Maybe now he can have some peace. Right now however the family is bickering over where to bury him. It goes to show you, you need to make your wishes known to your family before you go home.

And oh yeh, Welcome.

Lori

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Nostradomas

Welcome to LTL, augelita.

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Pobody's nerfect

Aye that, Augelita. Welcome!

As for Michael Jackson, I'm sort of non-plused by the entire affair - Save for certain reservation I hold for his father Joe - (who) rather unabashedly, with no shame or remorse came out directly after the announcement of the particulars surrounding Michael's untimely demise. . .Honestly, he sounded more like a salesman hawking a potential treasure-trove than a grieving parent.

'Michael's unreleased material' - 'compiled upon blue-ray media for sale ASAP' - to (sic.) to 'quote/unquote' "Honour his memory". . .Even Al Sharpton (present @ the announcement) looked decidedly uncomfortable as Joe talked - Not unlike he was dividing veal cutlets for sale to the highest bidder.

Neither was any of this lost on the press covering:

http://www.celebhotdaily.com/2009/07/jo ... eaves.html

Eh? What to say? Hans was right.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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Augelita, welcome to the forums. Please take note that mentioning commercial URL's in a signature is considered spamming here on larger Than Life.

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On another forum that I am on there are people there that do 'Retrievals'.

What is that I am guessing some of you are wondering....

Retrievals are when 3D humans that are well versed in OBEs (Out of Body Experiences) 'help' people that have died to move on to a 'better place'.

A couple of these people looked for Michael Jackson and said he was confused at first right after his death as to where he was.
One person stated it was a drug overdose BEFORE any of the media said anything about that.
THAT got my attention.

From what I have read is that many people that have died can end up in a place called Focus 23.
That dimensional area is where we have ghosts and people that are still 'stuck' in their 'Earthly Experience'. Many do not know they have died.
Very similar to a dream. How many of us know we are in a dream when we are dreaming?
It seems so REAL doesn't it? Well, that is kinda what it is like for Focus 23 and a few other 'Belief System Territories'.

I read about this in Robert Monroe's and Bruce Moen's books.

Focus 22-23

What these Retrievers are trying to do is work WITH the person's Spiritual Guides/Guardian Angels/Helpers/etc and get the people that have died to Focus 27 or what has been referred to as The Park.

Focus 27

Here is a Map of all of it:


See how 'close' Focus 22 & 23 are to Earth?

Quite interesting...
I also understand that many will not accept this as it goes against their religious beliefs.
That is OK....We do live in a Free Will or Freedom of Choice Multi-Verse after all.

Just so you all have some kind of base for all of this then here are all the Focus Levels. (that we 'know of')
This is not a hierarchy thing at all. It is just a Reference to what other Levels of Awareness we can have.

Focus Levels

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Question, Dood - Pertaining to your post, as I am troubled by certain aspects of Michael's death. . .

As I've seen feedback along these lines @ other forums, and cannot discount the possibility (of it) - Has anyone 'picked up' any information that Michael's overdose was either purposeful (or) accidental?

What troubles me is the presence of (Diprivan) on site; This drug is specific as anesthesia and I cannot see any reason for it to be outside the hospital environ.

Reason I ask? I know Diprivan. I've had four surgeries - and people, let me tell you; This shit is fucking powerful. Myself, I am double MJ's size. Everytime I've gone under the knife, I've argued with the doctor that I wanted to be awake for the surgery - I HATE being 'put under'. I am by no means squeamish. In other circumstances, I've been totally awake as I watched a doctor peel back my flesh with merely a local anest. for stitching. I tell myself it won't bother me, and magically, it doesn't.

On the other hand, (mentally) I've told myself before surgery that *if* they tried to put me under I'd fight it, forget that shit. This shit will turn you off like hitting a switch; Stop the feed, and you will awaken instantaneously. . .It isn't at all like 'normal' sleep. One moment you're awake and alert, they deliver the drip and the next - You're *bang* awake in recovery. Its' that simple.

WTF? Was that shit doing there if not for some evil intent? I know there were (certain) leeches surrounding Michael (enablers) that would pass him any medication he so desired, though I doubt most of these had intended his demise. . .With Michael dead, there goes their 'bread and butter, so-to-speak.

The presence of Diprivan raises a very disturbing specter over the entire affair. That MJ requested this drug specifically? I call BULLSHIT on that notion. For his size & weight, it wouldn't have even been necessary. There exists other very potent sleep aids much easier to acquire than this.

Just sayin'

Joe (Bigsky770)

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My wife has been talking about this for the last few days. As I understand it, you are right - Diprivan should NEVER leave hospitals and is not even available as a prescription drug in high street pharmacies.

Michael Jackson's dad Joe, and his sister La Toya have also said they believe his death was due to foul play.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/ju ... der-claims

Incidentally, it does seem pretty certain that Michael had been routinely consuming a whole cocktail of various drugs in recent years. As you and dutchie noticed Joe, I posted a song of his on Youtube about Demarol in the MJ thread in the music forum the other day.

http://www.larger-than-life.org/modules ... pic&t=2404

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Excellent points guys!
I was just trying to show the 'Spiritual Aspect' of it.
I did not know about that drug only being a hospital knock out drug only...geesh...that is heavy!

EDIT: Remember, I am still ONLY a Disciple here...haha!

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Yah know Smersh, when Hans and I spent the night chatting RE: "Michael Jackson" prior the story I'd posted on the HomePage concerning same, I have to admit, I wasn't aware of any of this, (meaning: his 'drug use'). I just was never enough of a follower to be ‘in the know‘. I didn't pay attention to those 'finer details' of his life.

Had to admit further: Would you believe? I have in my possession more than 500 CD's (60's, 70's, 80's, 90's) you name it - and not one "MJ" CD. Almost feel guilty. I'm not even tempted to run out and buy a copy of "Thriller" now. It wasn't that I hated him - Hell no. If I was dialing through the stations on FM, it was tolerable as long as I could wait it out 'till something I liked came on. My tastes run according to what I post in the music section for the curious.



Dood, I get the 'spiritual' aspect of it - Myself, I don't know anything concerning 'retrievals', though I have seen some really weird shit occur directly after certain peoples' deaths. Shit I will never, ever forget - The strongest activity displayed when those who'd left showed anger and threw objects around, perhaps feeling cheated - Maybe? Things left undone? Anyway, I've experienced poltergeist activity twice in my life, (this) not to mention the experiences of others also aquainted these individuals referenced, with their own stories to tell.

I know many here may view this aspect as ridiculous, but that's okay. We believe as our experience guides us. Perhaps? Putting [it] within terms they would be able to grasp, applying their best understanding so they may attach logic, they need understand that we are not merely physical, though also comprised of energy - - When our physical bodies (die), that ‘energy’ doesn’t simply pull a ‘disappearing act’. It moves on as it is guided - Either by their appreciation and resignation to their new circumstance, or, left with irresolvable issues behind due their religious conviction (or otherwise), enter into a sort of stasis of being. They can’t ‘deal’ with it. This is why I cannot discount the possibility, as retrieval makes sense.

Otherwise, where would progression be? Though yet, no matter the amount of effort a retriever may apply, I still must believe it is the ‘free will’ of the soul that effects that final release, as you say.

My feeling along these lines, would be that [if] anyone were to know the ‘what’s’ and ‘whys’ of this, who better? Than Michael? I firmly believe he is as much here now as he ever was, (just) not in that physical sense we relate among ourselves still within the physical, (3D). Through the proper (channel?) I believe he may give the answers authorities seek.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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When I had surgery I actually relished going under. I'm one of those who has a hard time sleeping. I always wake up after only sleeping only a couple of hours. I actually felt more refreshed afterwards.

Maybe my past abductions experience.



I have felt that also one of the reasons that he was taken out was to have peoples focus on his death, while congress passes a certain Bill quietly. This way people wont be aware of the passing of the Bill.

So yes I've heard rumblings too.

Lori

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Nostradomas

Latest news, hot-off-the-wire:

Michael Jackson was 'killed by
personal physician Dr. Conrad Murray'

By Mike Harvey in San Francisco
Police believe that Michael Jackson's personal physician killed him by administering a powerful drug, according to reports. Dr. Conrad Murray gave the pop star the anaesthetic propofol the night before he died, an unnamed law enforcement official told the Associated Press.

Jackson was regularly given propofol to help him sleep. The drug, also known as Diprivan, is used to induce unconsciousness in hospital patients before major surgery. Reports have said that it was found in Jackson’s home. Dr. Murray, 51, has been a central character in the investigation from the outset - Jackson's family have long accused Dr Murray of having a hand in his death.

The cardiologist was with Jackson when he died on June 25 and has been identified in court papers as the subject of a manslaughter investigation. Dr Murray's lawyer has said the doctor did not prescribe or administer anything that should have killed the pop star.

The personal physician, who had been treating Jackson for three years and had recently moved into his rented mansion in preparation for travelling to London with him for a series of concerts, desperately tried to revive Jackson when he found him unconscious at his home. Police officers and federal drug agents have searched the doctor's offices under a warrant allowing authorities to seek "property or items constituting evidence of the offence of manslaughter that tend to show that Dr Conrad Murray committed the said criminal offence".

Again, that LINK for the Rest of the Story: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 729930.ece

He wasn't even authorized to dispense cough medicine. How the f*** was he prescribing propofol?

Predictions:

Photops for Dr. Conrad Murray. Tips he'll need for survival. None of the aforementioned stated in jest - Lets' just be honest here. The news that is out there is some pretty damning stuff.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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This is looking more and more like I have thinking.

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Lori

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Nostradomas

And that would be? G'won Lori. Do tell, I'm curious.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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I had mentioned the possibility that he may have been killed, I'm actually thinking it may have been a deliberate thing. Either that or my wild imagination is even more wild then I thought.

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Nostradomas

I must admit, on first glance I'd thought the same thing myself. However, now I am beginning to believe otherwise.

Input from everyone who followed Michael Jackson, his career - suggests that they've known of his drug habits for years, it was just that common as knowledge to anyone who kept pace with what was going on. As I really didn't follow his life or career that closely, my first thought was a deliberate act aimed at taking Michael out, motivated by greed.

Though now it appears that Michael was a star of such mega - ("super") status that generally, he couldn't be denied anything he desired. Those in his life that had enough guts to say 'no' to Michael were readily dispensed by him. Seems he went through many of the more well-meaning individuals in this way long before his death, sadly, in the end - Those he thought of as 'friends' were quite possibly the worst enemies imaginable. He was (ahem) ‘enabled’ all the way to the grave.

I'm thinking one of those enemies happened to be a rogue “Dr.” that feeds his drug needs, (by rogue Dr. I mean ‘one who is probably a hair’s-breadth away from losing his license [if] he‘d had to practice in the real world‘), Michael, providing all the dividends he‘d ever need with an easy - out. Big money, one patient. The doctor thought it was a ‘win-win’ proposition. He was wrong.

Joe (Bigsky770)

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Article here..
Michael Jackson Nose Missing

Rolling Stone Magazine is reporting that Michael Jackson wore a prosthetic nose which was missing from his body during his autopsy. According to the Music Bible, the pop icon wore a prosthesis to hide the devastating affects of years of plastic surgery. Witnesses reveal that Michael wasn’t wearing the prosthetic nose in the morgue — adding that there was only a small hole where the star’s nose should have been.

At least one witness told Rolling Stone: “The prosthesis he normally attached to his damaged nose was missing, revealing bits of cartilage surrounding a small dark hole.”

The King of Pop’s former housekeeper, Adrian McManus, claims the the star had lots of false noses.

“His nose was a problem. He wore plasters around the side to cover or support it. It was severely caved in,” she recalls. “In his closet he had a jar of fake noses and stage glue, which he told me he used for disguises. But some were similar to his real nose, just without the hole.”

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At first glance this might seem like a post with some sour humour, but I would think that MJ - in his right (and un-drugged) mind, would never walk around without aforementioned fake nose..

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"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
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Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.

I've heard the rumours (about the nose deal) but jebuz h. on a popsicle stick this is disgusting. . .In a phantom-of-the-opera sorta way.

Gah!!

Joe (Bigsky770)

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Yes, but it does make me pity MJ even more, to be honest. Jeez, the guy must've been haunted by desperation..

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My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can.. (F. Zappa)
"How ironic... You eat vegetarian and speak baloney" -- Bucky Catt
Blackadder: Baldrick, have you no idea what irony is?
Baldrick: Yes, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made out of iron.